RDR1 Would Have FAILED If Not For THIS…



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  1. I’d put money on the next Red Dead game being about an outlaw becoming a legend. Now that we’ve seen two games go into how the outlaws got hunted down it would make sense to start from scratch to go into a legend’s origin story.

  2. Negative!

    2000s were kind of a dry period for Westerns. I think we had Shanghai Noon, Appaloosa, and There will be blood. Maybe 3:10 to Yuma, I forgot when that came out, but it didn't perform so well

    The reason why they did a Western was budget and time. You can re-use assets for the deserts. You can have a sparsely populated area and have it make sense.

    A lot of RDR1 was seemingly inspired by Blood Meridian and High Plains Drifter

    Now- movies like Unforgiven: that was a deconstruction of the Western and that came out in the 1990s

  3. I think RDR1 is possible one of the best paced games ever; the 1st third of it draws you into a simple but fun western with all the tropes and trimmings of the western genre told the familiar lens of a GTA type game.
    Then you get to Mexico.
    Things turn very Tarantino in the 2nd act and they hit you with the deconstruction, the heavier political themes and some of the most brutal scenes.

  4. It's also cos there is not a lot of cowboy games even till today and that market is not too saturated to make a profit from it.rdr 2 online was such as wasted potential

  5. And most of all, western is mostly about revenge, but Red Dead Redemption is about redemption by the name. John killed a lot of people not because he is want revenge, because he is want his family back, to live a quiet life.

  6. They need to remaster it using rdr2 graphics and location. That would be great. And relatively not to hard I think. They would just have to program the events and not the graphics.

  7. Both rdr1 and 2 were surprising stories
    Tbh I didn't play rdr 1 years after release, I watched my friend play it but he played the undead nightmare so my first impression of the game was a zombie cowboy apocalypse story and at that point I constantly rolled my eyes at any zombie content
    So when rdr2 was announced I thought that a sequel to the first zombie cowboy game was coming out
    While my friend was hyped and constantly nagged me to play rdr1 saying I'll like it
    Out of annoyance I did and I'm glad he got me into it
    Of course I played the story mode and I kept thinking it's nothing like what I saw him play
    Then he told me that the undead nightmare was a dlc
    Rdr1 traumatized me I didn't see John Marston's death coming though it didn't bring a tear in my eye nor I didn't felt sadness I just felt empty then when it came time to play as Jack I felt even more empty
    Beachers hope was eerie and felt like I couldn't step foot in the ranch anymore

    After the first game I played rdr2 and I was mesmerized by the graphics
    I thought I would play as John Marston again but in 1899 my friend told me the date of both games but didn't tell me I was gonna play as Arthur Morgan
    When Arthur and Dutch got on they're horses well Arthur was borrowing Charle's horse
    I was confused and constantly asking "where the hell is John Marston?! I thought you said he'd be here" and my friend kept reassuring me that he'll show up
    Anyways after long play through when Arthur's death came up same with John I didn't feel sadness I just sat on the couch in silence watching Arthur take his last breath while looking at the sunrise and the room I was dark so I can see everything in the game
    My friend and his gf were crying while I was just sitting there
    Now I'm not saying that they're deaths weren't sad though this time with Arthur I was sad to see him die but I just couldn't find the words to express it
    I didn't shed a tear either but I did feel grief
    The epilogue might be my favorite tbh just something about Pronghorn ranch it comforts me and I always look forward to it when I'm near the last missions of chapter 6
    I enjoyed the little tasks John had to do, it helped my grief
    After all the action, suspenseful and depressing chapter 6 I liked to slow missions in epilogue part 1
    Part 2 of the epilogue was where the action picks up a bit
    I love the house building montage
    But epilogue John Marston it's his appearance I really hate
    His body model, hair, beard is the same as Arthur's and I'm still really disappointed
    Everytime in the epilogue John's beard grows I just shave the damn thing off after a cutscene ends
    And his signature cowboy outfit from the first game isn't the exact outfit
    Everything looked off with John
    It's such a shame Rockstar put a lot of effort into Arthur that they just did a half ass job on John
    I love Arthur and John and they're different from each other but the epilogue just made John's appearance the same as Arthur's

    Either way I love both rdr games it is a different story compared to most westerns
    I didn't expect to love them as I wasn't into westerns in the first place
    I thought rdr was all about guns guns cowboys, shootouts and zombies 😂 like I said my first impression was when I saw my friend play Undead Nightmare

  8. I remember playing this game as a 10 year old and being “WOW! A really cool cowboy game where you can HUNT?! I wannit!” Fast forward a few years when I find RDR1 in my later teens and I get the game and actually see there is a really cool story attached to this cowboy hunting game.

    I think the cowboy setting was just underutilized in the early 2010s and rockstar having the fame of “they make GTA” made people interested in the cowboy genre and make it an easy sell to rockstar fans to give something new a try. Word of mouth probably boosted sales when people saw their friends playing the “cowboy game” and raving about it.

  9. Ro kstar already had the classic stylish western game which was Red Dead Revolver that's why they changed the way the game would progress in RDR1 to make it more realistic instead of cartoonish like Red Dead Revolver was

  10. They did it on purpose to make the end of John’s story first. He would speak of his past and that’ll attract a lot of attention on how John got there. Speaking of a classic western story of an outlaw and the downfall of it. I read that while they where working on the game, they where already making plans of the second game

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