Jordan Chariton of TYT Attacks HA Goodman, UGH! Let’s Discuss
The usually solid Jordan Chariton of the Young Turks attacked the motives, intentions, and the character of multiple people, …
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The usually solid Jordan Chariton of the Young Turks attacked the motives, intentions, and the character of multiple people, …
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Look at all you dumb asses calling H.A. a "Progressive". Doinks.
mid APR H A Goodman drank the koolaid & now his handle on twitter is "H A GOODMAN TRUMP 2020" & all he tweets about is his new GUNS… LOVE 2 HEAR YOUR OPINION JAMARL!!!! [he is not the only one I have had to stop following…] From GREEN to TRUMP…. smh
I don't like Jordan Chariton, although many of the things he talk about are accurate
I agree. It's not H.A. Goodman's fault that progressive viewers left TYT for Goodman's channel. Maybe TYT should not worry about Goodman and start talking about breaking up big banks, getting money out of politics, single-payer healthcare, our crumbling infrastructure and cost of pharmaceuticals. Trump and Republicans won't fix those problems but at least they're straight shooters unlike the last 8 years of Neo-liberal Democrats. Democrats had their chance but chose to enrich themselves.
i saw enough about HAG to know his content was not my style.
get rid of the 2 feet of empty space above your head in your camera shot, looks super unprofessional. go watch some other videos for head space reference. the top of your head should almost be touching the top of the screen and will make your videos look 10x better. #Trendyasdabbers
I find it idiotic to be pissed at anyone that has a view of the lesser of two evils Is better than the bigger evil.
It’s a joke to suggest tyt jumped on the Bernie bandwagon late in the game and then jumped off the second he lost the primaries.
It’s obvious they didn’t like Clinton but was more fearful of what a Trump presidency looked like. That view point was shared by many millions and now that we’ve experienced almost a year of Trump I️ would have to say they were correct in wanting the lesser of two evils .
A little bit misleading with Jordan on the screen, thought you had an interview, just heard you say it, click bait. Thank you though !
Excellent as usual. You're the sound voice always in the storm. Logic & common sense is definitly your forte.
M. Jordan doth protest too much.
I appreciate your comments, Jamari, and your effort to fairly parse yet another feud between independent progressive political news commentators that we see and read online. Personally, I can't listen to Cenk's self-aggrandizing rants any longer than a finger on a blackboard.. Is the puffery we see in big channels like TYT any different than the pablum pumped out by the corporate media outlets who reduce their message to soundbites arbitrated by corporate interests? It's jus t a bigger version of click bait, right? I think so, and conversely, YT click-baiters are following them right to the cliff's edge, trading in their our trust for views. We must not suspend our critical thinking for anyone.
is the same ha goodman who said everybody who qustioned his fbi cliams that turned out not to be true as a hillarybot i think theres a bit of pot kettle and black here.
H A will probably give examples on subsequent videos, and previous videos. No, he is a true progressive in shunning the DNC. When the DNC didn't honor a Progressive platform, AND rig the election in massive ways, and presently, is NOT reforming the election system, voting for MadDog Mattis, regime change, fracking and GMOs (Warren , Sanders).
TYT tries to pull in a wider audience, but they stick with the duopoly, because they don't think 3rd Parties can win. It is possible to win next election, due to the new standards of Commission On Presidential Debates, due to lawsuit by Johnson's Libertarian Party. Gordon should split off from TYT. Bernie has too much baggage now.
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Well stated! Very impressed with your clarity and perspective of the situation. Great response.
I think Goodman is click bait. I thought that way before this beef.
TYT ARE Sellouts….
Good analysis.
Bernie sanders himself asked his supporters to vote for Hillary.
H.A is on point! The Seth Rich story is a huge deal. It could prove massive corruption along with a huge political lie. And TYT accusing others of click bait is ironic as Fuck.
Jordan is losing in this situation, HA Goodman is a lone maverick standing on his own and for what is the truth , Jordan is working for GENK and has to suck up,, what more has to be said.
I have followed H.A. For a long time and I appreciate him keeping stuff this alive when so many on the left seem to forget Hillary's past, I am no one at all, just a person who is interested in politics but I have been attacked by TYT for calling them out on their hypocrisy. I couldn't follow who they were for, against, hated or liked because it changed. I remember Cenk doing a video saying he called out Obama, in defense of Mika on MSNBC, saying Hillary Clinton was a crook for her emails, yet they practically cried when she lost..
I try to get my information from a wide variety of places, not just one side or the other. But TYT has gone to another level for me. I do appreciate people who are fair on both sides. H.A does a mostly good job lol! I miss the days when we could have a conversation and it didn't matter what side of the aisle we were on, the conversation may have got heated but at the end of the day we shook hands and our other interests out weighed our political affiliation. So I just wanted to say thanks for this video, I also appreciate you defending H.A. I'm going to subscribe to your channel! Have a great day!
My issue is HA is questioning TYT's integrity with a bias against them.
Hes putting whether they are 'corporate sellouts" and shilling for the DNC to a referendum vote
He isn't "blowing the lid off a conspiracy" it's gossip mongering, nagging and vitriol.
He's playing viewers emotions with his "little David standing up to Goliatyt with his slingshot.
TYT has 40 employees and puts out a dozen shows, Cenk isn't the William Randall Hearst Leviathan of the Left.
Cenk and Kyle aren't waging a campaign to rally their supporters to dog pile HA and Tim Black. Doing that would seem nebulous, because "HA plays the little guy victim" and progressive are guileless. so it's a one sided fight. He's attacking them from a little guy victim punching up against The Man's" boot heels.
they can't respond without HA flailing on the ground and crying foul.
That's a total pussy move.
Questioning HA's integrity as a journalist, motives as a media figure and character as a man is perfectly reasonable
I am sick of their fighting. There are much more important things going on.
I've tried to watch h.a. Goodman but he's spouts out so much fake shit only a couple Times he's been right. But Jordan is speaking truth! Goodman has no evidence on his theories. and your just condoning his conspiracies.
Always good to find some rationality on the interweb. Subscribed.
Jordan is under pressure from Cenk and ilk. His paycheck depend on it
What I'm taking away here is that when progressives disagree with each other strongly, we need to do it honorably.
Jamarl for president 2020
QUESTION TO H.A. GOODMAN … Who else besides Cenk Uygur voted for Hillary Clinton? … ANSWER: Bernie Sanders.
Goodman condemns Cenk Uygur for voting for Hillary Clinton, but he conveniently forgets that that’s exactly what Bernie Sanders did.
And Sanders went one giant step further. He not only voted for Hillary Clinton, he ENTHUSIASTICALLY campaigned for her, characterizing Hillary Clinton, and Barack Obama, before, during and after the presidential campaign as “my friend.”*
(NOTE: I was watching The Jimmy Dore Show the other day and he played a video of Bernie Sanders being interviewed in which he said that his friend Barack Obama had "governed the country intelligently and with integrity." … And Sanders has the nerve to say that he wants to lead a revolution! … With whom, his friends Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama?)
I agree with Goodman that Cenk Uygur is a sellout for urging his viewers to vote for Hillary Clinton. … Absolutely. … But I also apply the same standard to Bernie Sanders. Sanders sold out just like Cenk Uygur did. … Moreover, Bernie Sanders selling out is far more relevant and for more egregious than Cenk Uygur selling out, in that Sanders has a much greater following and considerably more power than does Cenk Uygur.
As Goodman well knows, Cenk Uygur and the rest of The Young Turks who voted for Clinton made it very clear to their audience that they were voting for Hillary Clinton RELUCTANTLY — as the lesser of the two evils. … Indeed, several people on the left “held their nose” and voted for Hillary Clinton. But not Bernie Sanders. Sanders' vote for Clinton was cheerful, animated and enthusiastic.
In short, Goodman is a hypocrite. He has one standard for Cenk Uygur and an entirely different standard for Bernie Sanders. … Who’s sin is greater, Goodman? … The person who holds their nose and votes for what they consider to be the lesser of the two evils? … Or Bernie Sanders who EMBRACED the evil?
(NOTE: Goodman attacks The Young Turks as a whole but he fails to point out that Jimmy Dore, a senior member of The Young Turks, DID NOT vote for Hillary Clinton, but instead not only voted for Jill Stein but has been highly critical of Bernie Sanders for not speaking out against the corruption and criminality of the Democratic Party.)
The problem is the Democratic Party, and Sanders has not said Word One as regards how thoroughly corrupt the Democratic Party is. … Not a peep. … Meanwhile, Goodman rightly points out that the lawsuit now in the courts against the DNC (re. their cheating Sanders out of the nomination) is something that progressives should be speaking out in favor of. … BUT NOTICE THAT BERNIE SANDERS HASN’T SAID A WORD ABOUT THE LAWSUIT.
Some revolutionary.
As Alexander Cockburn, one of the founders of http://www.counterpunch.org, put it, “Bernie Sanders, that hot air factory from Vermont, wouldn’t know a revolution if it stood up and bite him in the ass.”
(NOTE: As far as “optics” are concerned, Goodman is making a fool of himself in the way he’s attacking Cenk Uygur and The Young Turks. He sounds like a spoiled, immature 6th grader.)
Finally, here are some articles discussing just how much of a sellout Bernie Sanders is:
— A REVEALING EPISODE: SANDERS APPLAUDS TRUMP DURING SPEECH BEFORE CONGRESS, https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2017/03/02/sand-f03.html
— FROM "POLITICAL REVOLUTION" TO COLLABORATION: SANDERS AND WARREN PLEDGE TO WORK WITH TRUMP, https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2016/11/14/pers-n14.html
— BERNIE SANDERS:THE CANDIDATE WHO CAME IN FROM THE COLD http://www.counterpunch.org/2016/04/22/bernie-sanders-the-candidate-who-came-in-from-the-cold/
— BERN OUT: BEYOND COWARDLY LEFTISM http://www.counterpunch.org/2016/07/19/bern-out-beyond-cowardly-lion-leftism/
— LEFT FORUM 2016 — IS SANDERS THE ANSWER TO BUILDING LEFT AND BLACK POWER? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JvAJ2WrJm3Q
— ELIZABETH WARREN CAMPAIGNS WITH CLINTON AS POSSIBLE RUNNING MATE https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2016/06/28/warr-j28.html
— A TELLING INCIDENT: MSNBC'S CHRIS MATTHEWS' EXCHANGE WITH SEN. ELIZABETH WARREN https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2014/07/04/warr-j04.html
— HOW TRUMP COULD CAUSE THE ECONOMIC MELTDOWN https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2vO3h3Geh48
— LET'S TALK ABOUT SOCIALISM, WITH PROFESSOR EMERITUS ROBERT WOLFF, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PheA4BPXQzg
— MILLENNIALS ARE RIPE FOR SOCIALISM: A GENERATION IS RISING UP AGAINST NEOLIBERAL OPPRESSION —
Quoting from that article,
“A recent Reason-Rupe survey found that a majority of Americans under 30 have a more favorable view of socialism than of capitalism. Gallup finds that almost 70 percent of young Americans are ready to vote for a “socialist” president.” http://www.salon.com/2016/07/04/millennials_are_ripe_for_socialism_a_generation_is_rising_up_again_partner/
— WHAT IF BERNIE SANDERS WAS REALLY TALKING ABOUT SOCIALISM?- https://systemicdisorder.wordpress.com/2015/11/04/bernie-sanders-what-is-socialism/
— CAN CIVILISATION SURVIVE REALLY EXISTING CAPITALISM? | NOAM CHOMSKY, https://WWW.YOUTUBE.COM/WATCH?V=_UUYJUXF6UK
Quoting from an article entitled, REPUBLICAN CONGRESS, TRUMP PLAN ASSAULT ON MEDICARE,
"(The Democratic Party,) this party of big business, from Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton to Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren, is a thousand times more fearful of a mass movement of the working class against capitalism than it is of Trump’s ultra-right agenda." http://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2016/11/26/medi-n26.html
— The Worldwide Socialist Website, http://www.wsws.org – This is an excellent website, updated daily. … As Rosa Luxemburg put it, “Socialism or barbarism.”
Awesome job sir.
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jordan wasnt wrong, i remember goodman during primaries. everyday it was in caps hillary is goin to jail, indictments coming, convictions coming for sure!!! pure damn clickbait, it got annoying.
Thank-you for this lucid analysis of the TYT/H. A. Goodman dust-up. Brilliant.
Could someone please point me toward the Jordan Chariiton bit that everyone is talking about? Maybe what date it happened? Or a link to that discussion? I just want to hear what they said, and I didn't. I've spent some time looking for it (I am not a regular listener of TYT) and cannot. I can find lots of folks speaking out against TYT. Please?
Thanks in advance for any and all help. (I am no fan of the DNC, don't get me wrong. And I am old enough to remember the days before primaries.)
I'm a ha goodman fan and Tim black fan… just found you channel man and enjoying your content plz keep it up… sub
You had me until you said H.A. Goodman promotes Clickbait. I listened to those same videos you mentioned. Tired of the truth tellers being beaten down over bullshit, while the true liars speak much bullshit with impunity and people swallow that crap whole.
Stopped watching TYT at the end of the primary when they announced their support for Clinton over Bernie for exactly the reasons you describe. The cheating was obvious. By supporting the candidate who cheated is like giving the schoolyard bully a trophy. I'm incredibly disappointed in Jordan.
All roads lead to pulling the fringe back into submission to the establishment.
TYT took a hit for the support for Hillary after the primary, I was close to leaving them behind. They (my view) took a position to oppose Trump. I was not at all in support of that. I decided to vote for the person that is good for the country, not which party…I know many were disappointed by TYT Cenk decided to do what he thought was needed. I was at first angry about that myself. I know settling for the lesser of two evils is not the way I will ever again vote. I hope TYT stays strong and progressive. H.A. should not be attacked, I don't agree with lots he was on about Hillary going to jail…he has a right to his voice as anyone else does.
Brilliant analysis. Hands down. You got a new subscriber!
TYT is shit