How Badly Was PlayStation 3 Over-Hyped?
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The 360 has a huge sucess in brazil and i think that the original xbox never sell officially here, so they starts the brand with nothing
599 us dolla
I still clearly remember that pre-launch Killzone trailer that opened with the clouds.
It was unbelievably hype, and it became pretty discouraging as we came to learn how unrealistic that level of presentation would be in actual games.
I would agree on some level, the press would throw outlandish statements as to what the processor was capable of, and maybe there is an argument for that atleast. The PS3 actually was a victim of price, and despite being a feature rich HD machine, Sony took their audiences for granted on the matter.
Ps3 had lots of potential but game developers are lazy and played to the lowest common denominator when it came to multi-platform games. most games ran like crap on PS3. Sony made a fantastic compute unit. Microsoft made a gaming console. PS3 was a better buy though. Even at launch. It plays all digital media discs cd dvd Blu-ray. Ps1 ps2 and ps3 games. Had wifi built in. which was a huge deal at the time.
Also. It ran linux. Which was fucking awesome.
That is true I had XNA studio on the XBOX 360 and I was doing ray tracing using only pixel shaders(nothing sophisticated of course)
The 360 was the better console for that generation.
The BluRay definately helped a lot. That plus the fact that the industry eventually caught up in coding for it‘s difficult hardware. Looking at games like Uncharted 2, Killzone 2…and even third parties did better and better during the second half of the cycle.
It wasnt overhyped, Gamedevs just couldn't keep up with Kutaragi's and IBM's genuius chip design, they just could be bothered to do abit extra work.
So nowadays we're stuck with off the shelf GARBAGE simple and basic PC hardware. And yet DF and everyone else complains about not enough 'exotic' hardware anymore
About as hypeampere
Look Digital Foundry if that AI from GT7 works it’ll help with PS future. What do you think?
It was overhyped in the same way the successor to the Switch is being overhyped. And i would be very surprised if it reached the same level of success as its predecessor because that has basically never happened in the past.
PS3 had Blu-Ray, Bluetooth, internal WiFi, back compat with PS2 and PS1 games, built in storage solution. PS3 version 1 could run other OS's like Linux. So many freaking features but the games ran better on 360 most of the time.
PS3 was WAAAAY overhyped. One of those times when you see so much advertising everywhere you know the normies are just gonna lap it up. Just like the movie The Dark Knight – the advertising was insane for that movie; literally everywhere = same result. You can buy the masses if you throw enough money at advertising and keep walking about how awesome something is.
Main reason the PS3 out sold the 360
1. RROD
2. Blu-ray
3. Hdmi
4. Rechargeable battery
5. Quiet
6. Build quality
7. Exclusives
8. Free internet ❤
I was a big 360 fan. It did handle things better, but there were a lot of old gen tech on the system and the PS3 was very forward thinking.
For me the RROD was what hurt the 360 the most. I loved my 360, then my 2nd&3rd, by the 4th received in 2008. I babied it and it still ended up failing in 2018. My PS3 is still mostly fine.
What book is John talking about at the 3:32 mark when he's talking about the x360 cpu?
I'm still hyped about PS triple
Xbox 360 was just so much better.
John do not underestimate the red ring of death effect.
People forget how widespread the RROD was on the 360. There was like a 50% chance that your machine was going to fail in a year or two from the original batch. I do think that messed with their momentum and hurt their future generations. I had a 360 (and it was awesome), after 2 RRODs I went exclusively to the PS3 and didn't bother fixing my 360 again.
you dont know anything about game development now, much less about game development then.
I'm a bit skeptical when they say games like Motorstorm and Uncharted could have been done on Xbox 360 because I just haven't seen any games like that on Xbox. There are also plenty of games that used the full 25GB or even 50GB of dual layer blu-ray storage that just wouldn't have been possible on Xbox or games like Final Fantasy XIII had to be 2 discs AND still had heavily compressed, non-HD FMVs as well as a slight graphical downgrade throughout. PS3 certainly felt like its exclusives could do way more overall even if the GPU was slightly weaker. A game like Metal Gear Solid just wouldn't be possible on the Xbox 360 or it would at least have to be released on like 4 or 5 discs and that was pretty early on in 2008. Both systems had their pros and cons but PS3 clearly outshined X360 with exclusives, it was just the first few years where the multiplatform ports suffered when the devs weren't used to the system yet. Outside of Halo and Gears I never felt the X360 had enough must play exclusives vs PS3 and they got a huge advantage by releasing a year earlier than the PS3, the biggest advantage it had at the time was a much better online network which became less the case once PS4 arrived.
The ps3 did outsell the 360 eventually, but the 360 outsold it for many years. I think the 360 had two big issues- no blu-ray, and the red ring of death. The biggest issue was clearly the red ring of death, but apart from that, I think the 360 was a much better console than the ps3. Sony managed to catch up, and I think in large part due to them doing the best they could with the hardware they had. The ps3 did have equal, or slightly better ability to do cool graphics stuff as the 360, but it took some time to show it, but they did show it over time, every year. Meanwhile the xbox team was fucking around with the kinect, and forcing Bungie to make Halo games for all eternity, just like theyre doing now with 343 and Gears with the coalition
The best thing about this discussion was the Starship Troopers movie on the background.
PS5 was overhyped as well. The power of SSD crap and stuff like that.
PS3 to this date is the best console ever made. The game selection over its life is still unrivaled, the way games looked on it was perfection, and it was in the days of free online before the big ps plus switch eventually.
Actually disappoint happens with its texture popping, the sony only made showoff, rather concentrating on how to deliver what's being promised or shown
Both ps2 and ps3 were over hyper piece of rubbish hardwares compared to Xbox … however the games were amazing
ALL developers, I mean ALL , used the CPU as a 2 core !! but the military bought a bunch, AND put them in parallel – lazy a** developers ( the only thing more crap than a 3 core CPU is the trash in a PS4 right now, the Jaguar, LMFAO)
Bull crap it was overhyped
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I wasn't following the industry closely at the time, and I got killzone 2 a few years after launch, not knowing the controversy, and it blew my mind with how good it looked. Nothing could compare with passing off a cg movie as gameplay, but kz2 was an amazing looking game
Wait, who ripped off who's CPU?? What book?????? I gotta know!!!!
PS3 out sold Xbox 360 eventually it had a crazy amount of awesome games the uncharted trilogy, the last of us, god of war, metal gear 4 etc etc
If the Xbox 360 had a Blu-ray player it would have competed better, but we know that Microsoft backed HD-DVD and then it was an add-on device.
I don't think that your viewer's remark about PS3 hype is only about gaming .
I remember back in those days ,i was reading articles that PS3's "CELL"-Processor was so powerful that countries such as Iran was ordering huge PS3 quantities in order to use those processors in their😲😱 "missile-programs" !!!
PS3's hype was simply🤓🤯 ,the DEFINITION of hype !!! i was hearing all those rumors and i was expecting the PS3 to … wipe out every competition
How badly was the xbox 360 overrated?
Ps3/360/wii generation was the best one to be apart of man. All the hype and fanboying was top tier
The 360 dominated in the US. It outsold the PS3 3-to-1 here.
When thinking about PS3 outselling the 360, remember we see the same thing happen with iPhone vs Android. It's all marketing and brand perception.
Playstation was almost sinonimous to gaming console in europe that's true
Xbox is DEAD worldwide
Xbox was synonymous with red ring of death for me. I bought a PS3 to replace my Xbox after it died and I've never looked back
I miss the weird architecture of previous console gens. PS5 and Series X are great game boxes but basically just streamlined small form factor PCs.
PSP was freaking AMAZING BTW! PS Vita was set to take over the portable market and Sony just missed at every step. So disappointing!
It reminds me of the Saturn's odd CPU . Odd how IBM helped with this CPU and also did the PowerPC that did the 360.
I bought the MSG4 edition and MSG4 and Demons Souls became my two favorite games since Zelds Ocarina of Time.
Moving to the PlayStation 4 must've been such a breath of fresh air for studios like Naughty Dog. – Not to get like pretentious about them, but they were already so ahead of things with what they were trying to do with games like "Uncharted" (at least 2 and onward, though even 1 was pushing conventions here and there) and of course "The Last of Us", it probably didn't help at all that the PS3 was so difficult. It's amazing what they managed to achieve with those 4 major titles on the PS3. – But then the PS4 came along and, due to exclusivity, they were finally able to really make those games shine or at least run properly, as the PS3 seemed to physically strain under them, especially with the ones they remastered. Though, then they squeezed the PS4 for all it's got yet again with "TLoU2", which in its turn is also amazing for what they pulled off with what was essentially already a 4-5 year old computer at the point they started full development on that game. – Then of course the PS5 lifted that up again, and so on. But it just gives context to those consoles and their tech.
Like… man… Imagine if 'Heavenly Sword' got a remaster for PS4 or something, then it wouldn't need to have such erratic framerates and look quite blurry at that. – I actually played that game when it was relatively new, but even at that time, while impressive for what it was, the framerate-drops and lower resolutions were actually a blemish upon an otherwise gorgeous game. Ninja Theory were just as much already pushing the boundaries back then, but clearly limited by that console. And also in their case it's amazing they got it done, but it just looks like it should've been a PS4-title just as well, even though it came out 6 years before it. – And I actually kinda love the PS3, it's special, but what a mess!
The PS3 maintained hype partially because Digital Foundry wasnt available to show performance. Many people thought the ps3 was capable of running 1080p, and the 360 was 720p because very few people followed up and fact checked.
With that said Sony overtook in the end because xbox brand was damaged by the rrod and they stopped supporting the 360 sooner. Sony was selling ps3s for years into the ps4 lifecycle.
I feel like the PS3/360 era was the last true console generation. Once they switched over to PC hardware it definitely became more developer friendly, but a lot less exciting. The PS3 architecture definitely afforded it unique capabilities, if the 360 really could have just run everything to equivalence on gpu then we should have seen TLOU graphical quality on that system, and it should have came sooner due to easier to code for architecture. The PS4 and Xbone do have impressive ports for what they are, but it was definitely less exciting of a generation looking back.